Comments on: Eleanor Grosch interview http://grainedit.com/2008/12/10/eleanor-grosch-interview/ modern graphic design inspiration blog + vintage graphics resource Wed, 08 Feb 2012 06:40:13 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Michael http://grainedit.com/2008/12/10/eleanor-grosch-interview/#comment-7341 Michael Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:25:16 +0000 http://grainedit.com/?p=1373#comment-7341 Sounds to me like Bob has micro-penis. Gross! Sounds to me like Bob has micro-penis. Gross!

]]> By: Steven http://grainedit.com/2008/12/10/eleanor-grosch-interview/#comment-7136 Steven Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:19:31 +0000 http://grainedit.com/?p=1373#comment-7136 Eleanor, The tricky thing is that Harper did so much amazing work and his style evolved a great deal over his career—as I am sure yours will too. The very idea of 'geometrically abstracted animals' became his trademark. His styles ranged from simple to complex, fluid to rigid, scenic to isolated, etc.—and he did it all with amazing refinement. So many people above comment that your work is a Harper rip-off, that it must give you pause. Whether one sees this as the case or not, enough people are mentioning it that it has become an issue. Your stated differences between your work and Harper's won't mean much if those 'superficial similarities' are still there. This is less about your work and more about the fact that Harper was prolific in terms of volume and stylistic approach. I, for one, really enjoy your work. That being said, there are times it feels a little too close to Harper's work (see swan below). Hopefully you can use the negativity of the comments above to inspire you to really define your style. I'd love to see where you go with the work you have already done serving as a springboard for your creative vision. http://kidistdesigns.com/CharleyHarperSwan.jpg http://www.flickr.com/photos/10159078@N03/3096825305 Eleanor,

The tricky thing is that Harper did so much amazing work and his style evolved a great deal over his career—as I am sure yours will too. The very idea of ‘geometrically abstracted animals’ became his trademark. His styles ranged from simple to complex, fluid to rigid, scenic to isolated, etc.—and he did it all with amazing refinement.

So many people above comment that your work is a Harper rip-off, that it must give you pause. Whether one sees this as the case or not, enough people are mentioning it that it has become an issue. Your stated differences between your work and Harper’s won’t mean much if those ’superficial similarities’ are still there. This is less about your work and more about the fact that Harper was prolific in terms of volume and stylistic approach.

I, for one, really enjoy your work. That being said, there are times it feels a little too close to Harper’s work (see swan below). Hopefully you can use the negativity of the comments above to inspire you to really define your style. I’d love to see where you go with the work you have already done serving as a springboard for your creative vision.

http://kidistdesigns.com/CharleyHarperSwan.jpg

http://www.flickr.com/photos/10159078@N03/3096825305

]]> By: Eleanor Grosch http://grainedit.com/2008/12/10/eleanor-grosch-interview/#comment-6882 Eleanor Grosch Tue, 17 Mar 2009 00:43:08 +0000 http://grainedit.com/?p=1373#comment-6882 Just read these last few comments and I feel sick. I can't sit back and take this beating; I wish you guys could actually take a real look at my work. I draw animals, just like Charley Harper, yes, but we have different ways of abstracting and representing the shapes they make. I use a different kind of geometry in my work, tend to focus on one animal instead of a whole scene, and often stick to fewer than 4 colors in my illustrations. In addition, my line qualities are very different from Harper's and my forms are less rigid. His geometric rigidity is a trademark of his style and works very well for it, but it's different from what I do. I hope you can take a second look at my artwork and realize that you might be wrong. If you're only willing to look at the superficial similarities, then that's kind of a shame. Just read these last few comments and I feel sick. I can’t sit back and take this beating; I wish you guys could actually take a real look at my work. I draw animals, just like Charley Harper, yes, but we have different ways of abstracting and representing the shapes they make. I use a different kind of geometry in my work, tend to focus on one animal instead of a whole scene, and often stick to fewer than 4 colors in my illustrations. In addition, my line qualities are very different from Harper’s and my forms are less rigid. His geometric rigidity is a trademark of his style and works very well for it, but it’s different from what I do. I hope you can take a second look at my artwork and realize that you might be wrong. If you’re only willing to look at the superficial similarities, then that’s kind of a shame.

]]> By: Bob http://grainedit.com/2008/12/10/eleanor-grosch-interview/#comment-6583 Bob Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:55:01 +0000 http://grainedit.com/?p=1373#comment-6583 Sorry folks, she's simply not ready for the big leagues. Anyone who fails to see that fact isn't worth hearing from. Sorry folks, she’s simply not ready for the big leagues. Anyone who fails to see that fact isn’t worth hearing from.

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]]> By: christopher http://grainedit.com/2008/12/10/eleanor-grosch-interview/#comment-5472 christopher Fri, 27 Feb 2009 11:47:09 +0000 http://grainedit.com/?p=1373#comment-5472 I don't think it should be looked upon as 'bashing' for pointing out the obvious. Looking at this art (and I've never seen anything from eleanor before) it's the same as charles harper's work to a 't.' If that's hating by pointing out the obvious truth, I'm not sure what 'art' has come to these days. I've been a fan of Harper's for years and his distinct style is why I love it. That same style is in this work (most of it, at least). Not in a 'borrowed' way but more of like a 'taken' way as I see it. I'm a fan of art. A lover of art and design. One of the best things about an artist is their distinct style that sets them apart from the rest of the world. When that's not there, it's just a matter of pushing shapes around with a mouse unfortunately. Say what you will but if someone with illustrator skills bought charley harper books and sat in a studio all day replicating them, I don't see how that's art. That's more like production or facsimile. And now I'm a 'hater' of course for giving my opinion on art but such is life. I'm not a hater; I'm a lover. I LOVE charley harper's work and this is a watered down version of that for the most part. It's great to be inspired by another artist...but replicating a style and adopting it as your own doesn't really put anyone over the top. It's the UNIQUENESS and CREATIVITY that I love in an artitsts work. Even if it's bad...as long as it's unique I might fall in love with it. Creativity and originality separate 'good' artists from 'classic' artists. Just my opinion. No hate...simple observation from someone who has followed harper's work for many years and really fallen in love with the trail he has blazed with his own unique style. I don’t think it should be looked upon as ‘bashing’ for pointing out the obvious. Looking at this art (and I’ve never seen anything from eleanor before) it’s the same as charles harper’s work to a ‘t.’
If that’s hating by pointing out the obvious truth, I’m not sure what ‘art’ has come to these days.
I’ve been a fan of Harper’s for years and his distinct style is why I love it. That same style is in this work (most of it, at least). Not in a ‘borrowed’ way but more of like a ‘taken’ way as I see it.
I’m a fan of art. A lover of art and design. One of the best things about an artist is their distinct style that sets them apart from the rest of the world. When that’s not there, it’s just a matter of pushing shapes around with a mouse unfortunately.
Say what you will but if someone with illustrator skills bought charley harper books and sat in a studio all day replicating them, I don’t see how that’s art. That’s more like production or facsimile. And now I’m a ‘hater’ of course for giving my opinion on art but such is life. I’m not a hater; I’m a lover. I LOVE charley harper’s work and this is a watered down version of that for the most part. It’s great to be inspired by another artist…but replicating a style and adopting it as your own doesn’t really put anyone over the top.
It’s the UNIQUENESS and CREATIVITY that I love in an artitsts work. Even if it’s bad…as long as it’s unique I might fall in love with it.
Creativity and originality separate ‘good’ artists from ‘classic’ artists.
Just my opinion. No hate…simple observation from someone who has followed harper’s work for many years and really fallen in love with the trail he has blazed with his own unique style.

]]> By: Helen Dardik http://grainedit.com/2008/12/10/eleanor-grosch-interview/#comment-5104 Helen Dardik Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:11:09 +0000 http://grainedit.com/?p=1373#comment-5104 Dear Eleanor, I loved the interview. You have a great esthetic and talent! Love your work! Dear Eleanor,

I loved the interview. You have a great esthetic and talent!
Love your work!

]]> By: Lonny Hurley http://grainedit.com/2008/12/10/eleanor-grosch-interview/#comment-5049 Lonny Hurley Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:00:29 +0000 http://grainedit.com/?p=1373#comment-5049 ELEANORRRR!!!!! MAKE SHOES FOR DOODS!!!!!! Great interview, you gonna be in austin? ELEANORRRR!!!!! MAKE SHOES FOR DOODS!!!!!!

Great interview, you gonna be in austin?

]]> By: ryan http://grainedit.com/2008/12/10/eleanor-grosch-interview/#comment-5006 ryan Sat, 27 Dec 2008 20:43:57 +0000 http://grainedit.com/?p=1373#comment-5006 the haters are out in hordes. inspiration is not mimicry. it is just that. inspiration. good interview. <3 to Eleanor. the haters are out in hordes. inspiration is not mimicry. it is just that. inspiration.

good interview. <3 to Eleanor.

]]> By: glenn riley http://grainedit.com/2008/12/10/eleanor-grosch-interview/#comment-4996 glenn riley Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:37:36 +0000 http://grainedit.com/?p=1373#comment-4996 Greetings all, I'm a graphic artist from Cincinnati, the home town of Charley Harper. So I've been familiar with his work for most of my life. When i first happened upon the Alien Workshop line of skateboard decks and apparel I immediately saw the similarity in styles, but i respected Eleanor's refreshing take on the form, and I'm even more pleased that perhaps Charley's styles of colors and shapes seen in natures creatures has found a suitable heir. This lady is an immense talent who shouldn't have to defend the merit of her work to anybody. If she never saw any of Harper's work, fine. If she has every single piece he ever made committed to memory, fine, it's not the point. All artist's are influenced by what has come before them, the goal is to elevate the art. I can only wish her (and the nay sayers) best wishes for the future. Greetings all,
I’m a graphic artist from Cincinnati, the home town of Charley Harper. So I’ve been familiar with his work for most of my life. When i first happened upon the Alien Workshop line of skateboard decks and apparel I immediately saw the similarity in styles, but i respected Eleanor’s refreshing take on the form, and I’m even more pleased that perhaps Charley’s styles of colors and shapes seen in natures creatures has found a suitable heir. This lady is an immense talent who shouldn’t have to defend the merit of her work to anybody. If she never saw any of Harper’s work, fine. If she has every single piece he ever made committed to memory, fine, it’s not the point. All artist’s are influenced by what has come before them, the goal is to elevate the art. I can only wish her (and the nay sayers) best wishes for the future.

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